Стенограмма судебного процесса, United States v. Ham et al., CR 90-87 (N.D. W.Va.), день IV, 14 марта 1991 г.: титульный лист, указатель и с. 831, 833, 835 — показания Денниса Горрика (Dennis Gorrick)

IN   THE   UNITED          STATES      DISTRICT         COURT
                   FOR    THE    NORTHERN        DISTRICT           OF    WEST   VIRGINIA
                                    MARTINSBURG               DIVISION




    UNITED       STATES    OF    AMERICA,



                                               Plaintiff,


            v.                                                       CR    90-87




    KEITH    GORDON       HAM,    TERRY       SHELDON,
    STEVEN       FITZPATRICK,       NEW       VRINDABAN            COMMUNITY,
    INC.,    GOVARDHAN,          INC.,
    CATHEDRAL       OF   HEALING,        INC.   ’




                                              Defendants.




             Before:          HONORABLE        ROBERT         R.    MERHIGE,       Ray
                                United    States          District         Judge
                                              AND    A    JURY




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                                         March       14,      1991
                                Martinsburg,             West      Virginia




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 you   very    much.


         Unless           I    hear    objection,       the   witness         is    excused.


                                (The   witness     stood      aside)


         MR.        STEIN:        United      States     calls     Dennis          Gorrick.




                                        DENNIS    GORRICK


                        WAS    SWORN   AND   TESTIFIED        AS   FOLLOWS:




                                  DIRECT       EXAMINATION


BY       STEIN:
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Q.       What       is    your    name?                                                 “        Fe

Ay       Dennis          Gorrick.                                                  “5       ee        a"


or       Are    you       a    devotee    of    the    Krishna      faith?                  :


A.       Yes,       I    am.


[oy      Do you have a Krishna name?

A.       Dharmatma             das.


Oi.      Would you spell that                   for the court reporter,                         please.

A.       D-H-A-R-M-A-T-M-A.                    Second    word      is   D-A-S.


Q.       For    a       period    of    time,    did    you   live      at    the       New


Vrindaban      Community?                                                     -

A.      Yes,        I    did.


Q.      Do     you       remember      when     Steven    Bryant        was       murdered?


A.      Yes,        I    do.


Q.      Do    you        remember      where    you    were    when     you        heard        about

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       Q.        Did      you     talk    to Arthur Villa          that morning?
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       A.        Yes,       later on after           the morning            functions         I   had a


       discussion with him.

       Q.        Did he          share    the    jubilance?


       A.        Arthur          was    quite    disturbed,     as      I    was,   at    the      fact


       that   Mr.     Bryant       had    been murdered       in     California.


       Q.        Did he say anything to you about                            the murder?


       A.        Well,          in discussing how disturbed we were and how


       surprised       we       were,    he   had   mentioned      to       me   that    --          “


10               MS    VANSUSTERN:              Objection.


so 8             THE      COURT:         Overruled.

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       A.        He had mentioned how he was very distugit

ia     shouldn't have been done like that.                           And that How i

14     Slavin,      Mr.     Wheeler       and Mr.     Sheldon were pushing like crazy


15     for this       to happen,          and how he had told them not to do it.

16     @:        When he had this conversation with you,                                 did he use


7      the names Sheldon,                Slavin and Wheeler,                or did he use the

18     Krishna      names?


<o     A.        He used          their Krishna names.


20     Q.        A few days after the murder,                   did you have a


21     conversation with defendant                   Sheldon?


22     A.        Yes,       1   did.


23     Q.        What were the circumstances of                         that conversation?


24     A.        Mr.      Sheldon arrived at my house,                      which was also the


25     sankirtan department,                  and he was getting things out of my

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                     to    leave             the    country.


                     Q.              Did       you       tell       him       to    do       something?

                     A.              I       told       him he           should      talk         to Number           One       about         the

                     money.



                    Q.               Who       is       Number       One?


                    A.               Number             One    referred            to    Bhaktipada.


                    Q.               Mr.      Swami?


                    A.              Yes.


                    °.              The       next       day        or    maybe         that      night,      did         you       get       a   visit

     10             from       Mr.       Swami?


 i              A.                  It       was


                afternoon, Mr. Swami along with **rot not, nena see
                                                    in    that           time      frame,         the    next        day       or    the gext




 i3             up        in    my    driveway                and,       in   Mr.       Swami's         car     and       tooted “the

 14             horn           for    me       to       come    outside.


 ao             Q.                 When       you        came       outside,            did       you   have     a    conversation

                with       Mr.        Swami?


 17             A.                 When       I    came        to    the      car       we    engaged       in       some       small             talk,

18              I don't remember what.                                    And then Mr. Swami asked me if I sail
19             six        thousand             dollars              cash      in    the      house.        And        I    said,          I   don't!

20             kamow,          and       I    will       see    if       you       want.          He    told me           to    go    in      and
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21             see        if    I    had       the       six    thousand            dollars.

22             Q.               Did          you    go    into       the      house?


23             A.              Yes.


24             Q.              I     went          in    the    house         and       went       into    my    safe          and       there

25             was       six       thousand             dollars.           because            I   was     planning             --    I    was